CONNECTICUT RIVER GATEWAY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP MEETING MINUTES
July 13, 2009
Deep River: Amy Petrone, Nancy Fischbach
East Haddam: Harvey Thomas, Robert Boulware
Essex: Ellen Whaley, Fred Vollono
Fenwick: Chuck Chadwick
Haddam: Susan Bement
Lyme: Kevin Mazer, J. Melvin Woody
Old Lyme:
Vacancy, Ted
Crosby
Old Saybrook:
Madge Fish, David Lemay
CRERPA: Steve Williams
Midstate RPA: Raoul De Brigard, Stacia DeMichele
DEP:
David Blatt
Staff:
J.H. Torrance Downes
Tidewater: Judy Preston
Guests: None present.
Call to Order
Vice Chairman Nancy
Fischbach called the workshop of the Gateway Commission to order at 7:35 pm
in the CRERPA meeting room.
Meeting
started with general discussion of GW members visiting member town P&Zs and
ZBAs. Ted Crosby urged other members to visit their local commissions and
boards with “churning” coming from staff.
Nancy Fischbach suggested one
member being assigned the task of visiting their local P&Z per month and
report back to the GW the following month.
Stasia DeMichelle
indicated that the Haddam P&Z chair was amenable to discussion of GW issues
and that there used to be a series of liaisons but no more. DeMichelle mentions that she and staff will be visiting the
Haddam ZBA in October. She indicates
that member and staff would talk about GW goals and gain feedback, informing
that GW is there to “assist and direct”.
JHTD offers to prepare a
short document outlining the history of the organization and efforts in which
it has been involved. Fischbach suggests that initial visits
should be short and to the point, offering expanded discussion at the
invitation of the local commissions. Crosby discusses a “package” for
presentation purposes, to be available around Labor Day. Visits should be scheduled on the agenda,
coordinated through local staff.
Discussion
moved to Committees and committee sign-up.
Committees discussed include Finance (existing), Community
Relations (outreach) & Education, Land and Rules &
Procedures. GW members to sign-up
for committees with lowest alphabet last
name to coordinate the first meeting and when to meet. Subcommittee will discuss their thoughts on
goals and present to GW as a whole.
Number of committee members doesn’t matter, although all members should
do at least one. DeMichelle reports that Raul DiBrigard
requests membership on “land” committee.
Fischbach reports that committee
membership list was “populate” with the most regular attendees.
Discussion
moved to future goals, what the GW should pursue when it “grows up”. Susan Bement indicated that most aren’t aware that the GW
exists.
DeMichelle indicates that the Haddam
P&Z didn’t even know. Agreed that
public outreach, especially to local boards and commissions is a high priority.
Regarding
riparian buffer standards, JHTD reminded the GW that Deep River ZEO Cathie
Jefferson and East Haddam Land Use Administrator Jim Ventres
both expressed interest in the adoption of standards like those prepared by
Tidewater Institute’s Judy Preston. Fischbach discussed the opportunity
presented by using Tidewater from the standpoint of GW needs for
education. Reiterating past discussion, Fischbach recounted that contracts with
Tidewater will be more specific with more defined “benchmarks” for determining
progress on work. Payments to Tidewater
could be based upon the meeting of such benchmarks. The work Tidewater takes on for the GW should
be driven more by GW needs and less by outside factors including grant funding
availability. Peggy Wilson queries if the updating of the Mission Booklet is one
of the tasks already given to Tidewater and wonders for whom the approved
PowerPoint presentation will be prepared.
Harvey Thomas suggests that
the presentation is for any interested group with Crosby indicating that the PowerPoint could form the core of
presentations made to local boards and commission and other groups. Crosby
suggests that a broader scope could be prepared for possible cable
presentation. Wilson expresses interest in whom Judy
Preston would feel the audience may be.
Discussion
moves to the need for a list of commitments made by the GW and the possibility
of preparation of a calendar of events (board and commission dates). JHTD to prepare (list completed and presented
on lower half of Agenda at July 27 regular meeting).
Crosby queries how the GW will prepare for
the acquisition of the CY Haddam Neck property.
Fischbach reports that the GW
has benefitted from the initial gift of $3000 that was given to the effort in
terms of being benefactors of all information available. General discussion on various articles
written about the ongoing process occurs.
Regarding the question of how to prepare, Fischbach suggests the preparation of a formal letter inquiring
“how can we help”. Additionally, its been said that the Obama
administration’s budget includes funding for this acquisition. JHTD
informs GW that the Vita Nuova notification for the
next step in the EOI process has been received.
JHTD told to express that the
GW would prefer to delegate their efforts for acquisition to the Melissa
Spears-coordinated Conservation Project, but not “drop out” of the EOI process
(note that such a report was sent to Elaine Richardson at Vita Nuova and confirmed as received). Crosby
asks what the GW should do “internally”.
Thomas suggests that the GW
should include this effort in the “script” presented to the local boards and
commissions. DeMichelle reports of a woman with whom she spoke who learned about the
effort from elsewhere but would be interested in more information.
Regarding
committee structure, Fischbach
indicated that working toward the reestablishment of committees will serve to
streamline meetings to a greater extent.
Discussion
moved to the issue of the regional land trust and the scheduled meeting on
September 16, 2009. Fischbach raised the question of to what extent the GW should be
involved as a coordinator. Discussion
included the recognition of the possibility that a “regional” entity may be
looked to for coordination. Crosby mentioned the mid-state
collective and the possibility that they could help. The Pace University LULA organization was
mentioned as well.
JHTD
brought up the point of an effort being “staff-driven”. It was recognized that Margot Burns was
interested as she brought the idea to the GW, but it was unclear whether or not
she was interested in pursuit of the project as staff of some sort. The question was raised again: was GW
interested in spearheading? Does the GW
have the resources (staff time) available?
Fischbach recognizes that the
GW has “a lot on their plate” at present.
Is the inclination to say yes? Maybe? No? Madge
Fish commented that maybe land trusts could be the first recipient of
GW-lead educational efforts. The trusts
could be used to GW advantage. Crosby suggested that the GW should be
looked at as community planners, a resource that towns can turn to for
assistance. Fish commented that perhaps boards and commissions should be
“taught” first, followed by the land trusts.
Thomas suggested that CRERPA/Gateway should
put out a letter for the September meeting.
If there is interest in coordination, it would be “remarkable” if it was
one of the land trusts who expressed such interest. By default, as already recognized, it’ll
likely be a regional entity such as CRERPA or GW. Offering the invitation, GW has “led with its
chin”. Fischbach indicated that CRERPA could coordinate with GW playing
the role of “endorser”. But, GW has to
be ready to say yes or no (another position would be to review what “needs”
come out of the September 16th meeting, then determine based upon
those needs whether GW or CRERPA has the resources or desire to
coordinate). The possibility of waiting
until next fiscal year was briefly discussed then discarded in that a loss of
momentum would likely be detrimental to any effort. Crosby
brought up The Rockfall Foundation as an entity
that could be considered. No need to
“reinvent the wheel”. DeMichelle reiterated that land trust and
conservation commission interest seemed high in Haddam.
Peggy Wilson suggested that since Margot Burns
is a driving force in this discussion, perhaps she could talk to the Chester
Conservation Commission regarding involvement.
Fischbach suggests that CY
collaboration could be a model. Perhaps several individuals could get together
to spearhead the effort. No consensus
has been stated. Would GW coordination
take JHTD away from the other tasks he is responsible for? Thomas reiterates the need for JHTD task list (subsequently passed
out at the July regular meeting). Fischbach suggests that the “core” of
GW will likely be responsible for the majority of the work and indicates that
JHTD duties and list of GW commitments are needed for the July 23rd
regular meeting (completed and provided at July 23rd meeting).
Fischbach will email those not at the
workshop to have them register interest in committee membership. Upcoming agenda should reflect “Committee
Finalization”.
Discussion
shifted to the idea of GW sponsoring events once or twice a year. Consensus was that boat trip should be done
annually. GW/staff were urged to select
dates in September and August. Wilson suggested that the issue be
placed on the next agenda.
Discussion
shifted again to the Haddam “land swap”.
It was indicated that the House Bill that would have enabled the swap
was vetoed by the Governor. DeMichelle
opined that the proposed “swap” was not an even trade for the State of
Connecticut. It was suggested that Goodspeed would have gotten the better of the deal.
Picking
up on an earlier discussion, Harvey
Thomas again asked about the necessity of there being some formal agreement
between CRERPA and GW regarding the staffing arrangement. JHTD suggested a Memorandum of Understanding
(MOU) of sorts. That seemed acceptable. Fischbach mentioned that, in light of
the possible shifting of regional boundaries in the future, formalization may
be warranted in that it may not be CRERPA that staffs the GW in the future.
Fischbach raised the issue of clarifying the
relationship of GW and the Lower CT River Land Trust which Gateway members
populate and discusses the example of the differing officer structures.
Summarizing,
Peggy Wilson indicates that the
discussions of the past two workshops have succeeded in putting GW business in
perspective. On the issue of membership
and lack of attendance by some, Fischbach
suggested that the Outreach committee could perhaps handle such an issue
because more attendance is needed with the work program being anticipated and notes that alternates do everything but vote. Crosby
suggested that all members should
be required to attend some agreed upon number of meetings per year. Fischbach
suggested a new policy which requires such attendance. Upon a question of public input into GW
member selections by towns, it was indicated that there is none. Selection is the purview of the Boards of
Selectmen or the First Selectman. Fischbach notes that the idea of each
GW member reporting on his or her town could include a discussion of membership
issues.
JHTD
indicated that he has continued to try to get in touch with Essex member Fred Vollono
through email channels and has been unsuccessful.
Susan Bement
reminded the GW that the final transfer of GW or LCRLT-owned properties to the
State of Connecticut should continue to be a high priority. Fischbach
suggests that the requested list of commitments will allow for the proper
prioritization of activities and responsibilities. Regarding membership, Madge Fish suggests that if members go back to their town
commissions and brings up the issue of membership, “we may get lucky” and find
someone who has interest in serving. Bement describes the potential new Haddam
member, an “environmental psychologist” that Mel Woody knows.
Upon
a motion by Nancy Fischbach, the
workshop was adjourned at 9pm.